Tuesday, April 24, 2012

NATUARAL RESOURCE AND TOURISM BY EZEKIEL MAIGE

Natural Resources and Tourism minister Ezekiel Maige
Natural Resources and Tourism minister Ezekiel Maige was again in the firing line here yesterday over what Members of Parliament described as deliberate mishandling of procedures governing trapping and shipping of live wildlife abroad.
The legislators also accused the minister of deliberate mishandling of the allocation of hunting blocks to hunting companies.
Tabling the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Lands, Natural Resources and Environment report, detailing government performance on the three sectors for the period between April last year and this year, Committee Chairman James Lembeli said an investigation conducted by his committee had revealed gross and deliberate negligence in handling the two exercises.
Lembeli urged the government to hold the minister accountable for creating what he described as ‘corrupt environment’ around the two issues.
This is the second time in less than five months that minister Maige has come under fire in Parliament over more or less the same issues.
Last November the minister was put on the spot by MPs over reports that about 116 live wild animals were caught from their natural habitat on September 2010 and shipped to an unknown foreign land.
The case over the matter still continues in court.
In the report tabled in Parliament yesterday Lembeli said his committee conducted a special investigation on how two giraffes were trapped and shipped off to foreign lands under a permit issued by the ministry on April 29, last year, to a hunting company called Jungle International Limited.
Pinpointing the deliberate anomalies surrounding the issuance of the permit, Lembeli said it was in the form of a letter that however, did not cite reference to any application letter requesting for the said wild animals.
Even when the committee went to the ministry requesting for a copy of the application letter written by Jungle International Limited, no such letter was forthcoming, said Lembeli.
The second anomaly involved the destination of the captured animals. Lembeli said while investigations showed the animals were destined for a special Zoo known as Savannah Plain International School located in Shinyanga, the letter of endorsement from the ministry showed the wildlife animals were to be shipped off to foreign lands.
The third anomaly, according to Lembeli, surrounded the areas where the wild animals were to be captured. He said while the regulations ordered the permit to indicate only one district, from which the animals are to be captured, the permit from the ministry allowed the applicant to trap the animals from Longido, Simanjiro and Monduli districts.
Furthermore, Jungle International Limited did not avail some important documents to substantiate its intent to ship the animals outside the country as was required. Such documents include airway bills and customs stamp.
While the capture of wild animals such as giraffes was supposed to be carried out under a special permit issued by the Director of Wildlife Department, the permit in this case was issued by the Former Permanent Secretary of the Ministry Ladislaus Komba and signed by Senior Wildlife Officer identified as Mohammed Madehele.
Lembeli said his committee learnt that Jungle International Limited was not a legal entity as documents with Business, Registration and Licensing Authority (BRELA) showed that it changed its status and responsibilities on December 28, 2001 into Jungle Auctioneers and Brokers Company, implying that the ministry issued the permit to a non-existent company.
Lembeli said the committee on further investigation noted that on July 19, 2010 the ministry issued a permit No GD/R.20/2/87 dated January 27, 2010, signed by a person identified as B.M.C.M Midala on behalf of the permanent secretary, which identified Karachi City, Pakistan as the recipient of two giraffes, two hippos, two greater kudus and four elands.
On March 23, 2009 the Wildlife Department wrote Karachi City Executive Director a letter, reference No.GD/R.40/20/Vol.II/8 granting it permission to trap four female elephants, but Lembeli said investigations by the committee revealed that there was no evidence to prove that the animals were shipped to the Asian city or documents from Karachi to substantiate that it received the animals.
According to Lembeli, the ministry should have made efforts to satisfy itself that the four female elephants allegedly taken to the Asian city had really arrived there before issuing another permit.
The committee also noted that a person identified as Kamarani Ahmad, a Pakistani national owns legal trapper card No.0016929, against the Wildlife Conservation Act, 2009 that prohibits foreigners from owning such cards.
In the report, Lembeli told MPs that his committee noted serious shortcomings in distribution of hunting blocks to companies for the 2013-2018 hunting season.
He said hunting companies such as Said Kawawa and Malagarasi were awarded First and Second Class hunting blocks while the ministerial advisory committee wanted the minister not to award the blocks to the two companies.
Lembeli said the Government Notice (GN) dated September 7, 2011 on allocation of hunting blocks to 60 companies did not show the blocks awarded to the two companies mentioned above.
He said Section 11 of the Wildlife Conservation Act, 2009 states that: “the minister shall ensure that any modality or system used in allocation of hunting blocks is transparent and is in line with the principles of good governance”.
He said the section above was not adhered to in the hunting blocks allocation process as the GN did not explicitly and openly state which hunting company was awarded which hunting blocks.
Due to such gross irresponsibility, Lembeli called upon the government to take disciplinary measures against the current Permanent Secretary, Dr Erasmus Tarimo, Mohammed Madehele, B.C.M.C Madala and other ministry officials involved.
Responding, minister Maige defended himself saying he did not receive the committee’s report that investigated the scams in the ministry, including exportation of live animals outside the country.
“I just got the parliamentary committee’s report ten minutes before it was presented by its chairman, James Lembeli, in this House. What can I do under such circumstances?” he questioned.
He accused the parliamentary committee of being one-sided, in the course of investigation, taking views from hunting companies and associations and compiling a report, without cross-checking the facts with the minister and his team.

DIFFERENCIES OF CENCERSHIP

Different senses of citizenship Citizenship status, under social contract theory, carries with it both rights and responsibilities. In this sense, citizenship was described as "a bundle of rights -- primarily, political participation in the life of the community, the right to vote, and the right to receive certain protection from the community, as well as obligations."[1] Citizenship is seen by most scholars as culture-specific, in the sense that the meaning of the term varies considerably from culture to culture, and over time.[2] How citizenship is understood depends on the person making the determination. The relation of citizenship has never been fixed or static, but constantly changes within each society. While citizenship has varied considerably throughout history, and within societies over time, there are some common elements but they vary considerably as well. As a bond, citizenship extends beyond basic kinship ties to unite people of different genetic backgrounds. It usually signifies membership in a political body. It is often based on, or was a result of, some form of military service or expectation of future service. It usually involves some form of political participation, but this can vary from token acts to active service in government. Citizenship is a status in society. It is an ideal state as well. It generally describes a person with legal rights within a given political order. It almost always has an element of exclusion, meaning that some people are not citizens, and that this distinction can sometimes be very important, or not important, depending on a particular society. Citizenship as a concept is generally hard to isolate intellectually and compare with related political notions, since it relates to many other aspects of society such as the family, military service, the individual, freedom, religion, ideas of right and wrong, ethnicity, and patterns for how a person should behave in society.[3] When there are many different groups within a nation, citizenship may be the only real bond which unites everybody as equals without discrimination—it is a "broad bond" linking "a person with the state" and gives people a universal identity as a legal member of a specific nation.[4]
Modern citizenship has often been looked at as two competing underlying ideas:[5]
  • The liberal-individualist or sometimes liberal conception of citizenship suggests that citizens should have entitlements necessary for human dignity.[6] It assumes people act for the purpose of enlightened self-interest. According to this viewpoint, citizens are sovereign, morally autonomous beings with duties to pay taxes, obey the law, engage in business transactions, and defend the nation if it comes under attack,[6] but are essentially passive politically,[5] and their primary focus is on economic betterment. This idea began to appear around the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, and became stronger over time, according to one view.[7] According to this formulation, the state exists for the benefit of citizens and has an obligation to respect and protect the rights of citizens, including civil rights and political rights.[7] It was later that so-called social rights became part of the obligation for the state.[7]
  • The civic-republican or sometimes classical or civic humanist conception of citizenship emphasizes man's political nature, and sees citizenship as an active process, not a passive state or legal marker.[5] It is relatively more concerned that government will interfere with popular places to practice citizenship in the public sphere. Citizenship means being active in government affairs.[6] According to one view, most people today live as citizens according to the liberal-individualist conception but wished they lived more according to the civic-republican ideal.[5] An ideal citizen is one who exhibits "good civic behavior".[7] Free citizens and a republic government are "mutually interrelated."[7] Citizenship suggested a commitment to "duty and civic virtue".[7]
Scholars suggest that the concept of citizenship contains many unresolved issues, sometimes called tensions, existing within the relation, that continue to reflect uncertainty about what citizenship is supposed to mean.[7] Some unresolved issues regarding citizenship include questions about what is the proper balance between duties and rights.[7] Some see these two aspects of citizenship as incompatible, such that social rights have gone too far with not enough emphasis on duties citizens owe to the state.[7] Another is a question about what is the proper balance between political citizenship versus social citizenship.[7] Some thinkers see benefits with people being absent from public affairs, since too much participation such as revolution can be destructive, yet too little participation such as total apathy can be problematic as well.[7] Citizenship can be seen as a special elite status, and it can also be seen as a democratizing force and something that everybody has; the concept can include both senses.[7] According to political scientist Arthur Stinchcombe, citizenship is based on the extent that a person can control one's own destiny within the group in the sense of being able to influence the government of the group.[3]:p.150 One last distinction within citizenship is the so-called consent descent distinction, and this issue addresses whether citizenship is a fundamental matter determined by a person choosing to belong to a particular nation––by his or her consent––or is citizenship a matter of where a person was born––that is, by his or her descent.[8]

[edit] International citizenship

In recent years, some intergovernmental organizations have extended the concept and terminology associated with citizenship to the international level,[9] where it is applied to the totality of the citizens of their constituent countries combined. Citizenship at this level is a secondary concept, with rights deriving from national citizenship.

[edit] Commonwealth citizenship

The concept of "Commonwealth Citizenship" has been in place ever since the establishment of the Commonwealth of Nations. As with the EU, one holds Commonwealth citizenship only by being a citizen of a Commonwealth member state. This form of citizenship offers certain privileges within some Commonwealth countries:
  • Some such countries do not require tourist visas of citizens of other Commonwealth countries.
  • In some Commonwealth countries resident citizens of other Commonwealth countries are entitled to political rights, e.g., the right to vote in local and national elections and in some cases even the right to stand for election.
  • In some instances the right to work in any position (including the civil service) is granted, except for certain specific positions, such as in the defense departments, Governor-General or President or Prime Minister.
Although Ireland left the Commonwealth in 1949, it is often treated as if it were a member, with references being made in legal documents to 'the Commonwealth and the Republic of Ireland', and its citizens are not classified as foreign nationals, particularly in the United Kingdom.
Canada departed from the principle of nationality being defined in terms of allegiance in 1921. In 1935 the Irish Free State was the first to introduce its own citizenship. However, Irish citizens were still treated as subjects of the Crown, and they are still not regarded as foreign, even though Ireland is not a member of the Commonwealth.[10] The Canadian Citizenship Act of 1947 provided for a distinct Canadian Citizenship, automatically conferred upon most individuals born in Canada, with some exceptions, and defined the conditions under which one could become a naturalized citizen. The concept of Commonwealth citizenship was introduced in 1948 in the British Nationality Act 1948. Other dominions adopted this principle such as New Zealand, by way of the British Nationality and New Zealand Citizenship Act of 1948.

[edit] European Union citizenship

The Maastricht Treaty introduced the concept of citizenship of the European Union. Article 17 (1) of the Treaty on European Union[11] stated that:
Citizenship of the Union is hereby established. Every person holding the nationality of a Member State shall be a citizen of the Union. Citizenship of the Union shall be additional to and not replace national citizenship.[12]
An agreement known as the amended EC Treaty[12] established certain minimal rights for European Union citizens. Article 12 of the amended EC Treaty guaranteed a general right of non-discrimination within the scope of the Treaty. Article 18 provided a limited right to free movement and residence in Member States other than that of which the European Union citizen is a national. Articles 18-21 and 225 provide certain political rights.
Union citizens have also extensive rights to move in order to exercise economic activity in any of the Member States[13] which predate the introduction of Union citizenship.[14]

[edit] Subnational citizenship

Citizenship most usually relates to membership of the nation state, but the term can also apply at the subnational level. Subnational entities may impose requirements, of residency or otherwise, which permit citizens to participate in the political life of that entity, or to enjoy benefits provided by the government of that entity. But in such cases, those eligible are also sometimes seen as "citizens" of the relevant state, province, or region. An example of this is how the fundamental basis of Swiss citizenship is citizenship of an individual commune, from which follows citizenship of a canton and of the Confederation. Another example is Åland where the residents enjoy a special provincial citizenship within Finland, hembygdsrätt.
The United States has a federal system in which a person is a citizen of their specific state of residence, such as New Jersey or California, as well as a citizen of the United States. State constitutions may grant certain rights above and beyond what are granted under the United States Constitution and may impose their own obligations including the sovereign right of taxation and military service; each state maintains at least one military force subject to national militia transfer service, the state's national guard, and some states maintain a second military force not subject to nationalization.

[edit] History

[edit] Polis citizenship

Many thinkers point to the concept of citizenship beginning in the early city-states of ancient Greece, although others see it as primarily a modern phenomenon dating back only a few hundred years. Another view is that the concept of citizenship arose with the first laws. Polis meant both the political assembly of the city-state as well as the entire society.[15] Citizenship has generally been identified as a western phenomenon.[16] There is a general view that citizenship in ancient times was a simpler relation than modern forms of citizenship, although this view has come under scrutiny.[2] The relation of citizenship has not been a fixed or static relation, but constantly changed within each society, and that according to one view, citizenship might "really have worked" only at select periods during certain times, such as when the Athenian politician Solon made reforms in the early Athenian state.[7]
Historian Geoffrey Hosking in his 2005 Modern Scholar lecture course suggested that citizenship in ancient Greece arose from an appreciation for the importance of freedom.[17] Hosking explained:
It can be argued that this growth of slavery was what made Greeks particularly conscious of the value of freedom. After all, any Greek farmer might fall into debt and therefore might become a slave, at almost any time ... When the Greeks fought together, they fought in order to avoid being enslaved by warfare, to avoid being defeated by those who might take them into slavery. And they also arranged their political institutions so as to remain free men.
—Geoffrey Hosking, 2005[17]
Geoffrey Hosking suggests that fear of being enslaved was a central motivating force for the development of the Greek sense of citizenship. Sculpture: a Greek woman being served by a slave-child.
Slavery permitted slaveowners to have substantial free time, and enabled participation in public life.[17] Polis citizenship was marked by exclusivity. Inequality of status was widespread; citizens had a higher status than non-citizens, such as women, slaves or barbarians.[8][18] The first form of citizenship was based on the way people lived in the ancient Greek times, in small-scale organic communities of the polis. Citizenship was not seen as a separate activity from the private life of the individual person, in the sense that there was not a distinction between public and private life. The obligations of citizenship were deeply connected into one’s everyday life in the polis. These small-scale organic communities were generally seen as a new development in world history, in contrast to the established ancient civilizations of Egypt or Persia, or the hunter-gatherer bands elsewhere. From the viewpoint of the ancient Greeks, a person's public life was not separated from their private life, and Greeks did not distinguish between the two worlds according to the modern western conception. The obligations of citizenship were deeply connected with everyday life. To be truly human, one had to be an active citizen to the community, which Aristotle famously expressed: “To take no part in the running of the community's affairs is to be either a beast or a god!” This form of citizenship was based on obligations of citizens towards the community, rather than rights given to the citizens of the community. This was not a problem because they all had a strong affinity with the polis; their own destiny and the destiny of the community were strongly linked. Also, citizens of the polis saw obligations to the community as an opportunity to be virtuous, it was a source of honour and respect. In Athens, citizens were both ruler and ruled, important political and judicial offices were rotated and all citizens had the right to speak and vote in the political assembly. An important aspect of polis citizenship was exclusivity. Citizenship had a much higher status than non-citizens, such as women, slaves or ‘barbarians’.

[edit] Roman ideas of citizenship

In the Roman Empire, citizenship expanded from small scale communities to the entire empire. Romans realised that granting citizenship to people from all over the empire legitimized Roman rule over conquered areas. Roman citizenship was no longer a status of political agency; it had been reduced to a judicial safeguard and the expression of rule and law.[19] Rome carried forth Greek ideas of citizenship such as the principles of equality under the law, civic participation in government, and notions that "no one citizen should have too much power for too long",.[20] but Rome offered relatively generous terms to its captives, including chances for lesser forms of citizenship.[20] If Greek citizenship was an "emancipation from the world of things",[21] the Roman sense increasingly reflected the fact that citizens could act upon material things as well as other citizens, in the sense of buying or selling property, possessions, titles, goods. One historian explained:
The person was defined and represented through his actions upon things; in the course of time, the term property came to mean, first, the defining characteristic of a human or other being; second, the relation which a person had with a thing; and third, the thing defined as the possession of some person.
Roman citizenship reflected a struggle between the upper-class patrician interests against the lower-order working groups known as the plebeian class.[20] A citizen came to be understood as a person "free to act by law, free to ask and expect the law's protection, a citizen of such and such a legal community, of such and such a legal standing in that community."[23] Citizenship meant having rights to have possessions, immunities, expectations, which were "available in many kinds and degrees, available or unavailable to many kinds of person for many kinds of reason."[23] And the law, itself, was a kind of bond uniting people.[24] Roman citizenship was more impersonal, universal, multiform, having different degrees and applications.[24]

[edit] Middle Ages

During European Middle Ages, citizenship was usually associated with cities, see burgher, Great Burgher and Bourgeoisie. Nobility used to have privileges above commoners (see aristocracy), but the French Revolution and other revolutions revoked these privileges and made citizens.

[edit] Renaissance

During the Renaissance, people transitioned from being subjects of a king or queen to being citizens of a city and later to a nation.[3]:p.161 Each city had its own law, courts, and independent administration.[25] And being a citizen often meant being subject to the city's law in addition to having power in some instances to help choose officials.[25] City dwellers who had fought alongside nobles in battles to defend their cities were no longer content with having a subordinate social status, but demanded a greater role in the form of citizenship.[26] Membership in guilds was an indirect form of citizenship in that it helped their members succeed financially.[27] The rise of citizenship was linked to the rise of republicanism, according to one account, since independent citizens meant that kings had less power.[28] Citizenship became an idealized, almost abstract, concept,[7] and did not signify a submissive relation with a lord or count, but rather indicated the bond between a person and the state in the rather abstract sense of having rights and duties.[7]

[edit] Modern times

The modern idea of citizenship still respects the idea of political participation, but it is usually done through "elaborate systems of political representation at a distance" such as representative democracy.[2] Modern citizenship is much more passive; action is delegated to others; citizenship is often a constraint on acting, not an impetus to act.[2] Nevertheless, citizens are usually aware of their obligations to authorities, and are aware that these bonds often limit what they can do.[2]

[edit] Honorary citizenship

Some countries extend "honorary citizenship" to those whom they consider to be especially admirable or worthy of the distinction.
By act of United States Congress and presidential assent, honorary United States citizenship has been awarded to only seven individuals. Honorary Canadian citizenship requires the unanimous approval of Parliament. The only people to ever receive honorary Canadian citizenship are Raoul Wallenberg posthumously in 1985, Nelson Mandela in 2001, the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso in 2006, Aung San Suu Kyi in 2007 and Prince Karim Aga Khan in 2009.
In 2002 South Korea awarded honorary citizenship to Dutch football (soccer) coach Guus Hiddink who successfully and unexpectedly took the national team to the semi-finals of the 2002 FIFA World Cup. Honorary citizenship was also awarded to Hines Ward, a black Korean American football player, in 2006 for his efforts to minimize discrimination in Korea against half-Koreans.
American actress Angelina Jolie received an honorary Cambodian citizenship in 2005 due to her humanitarian efforts. Cricketers Matthew Hayden and Herschelle Gibbs were awarded honorary citizenship of St. Kitts and Nevis in March 2007 due to their record-breaking innings in the 2007 Cricket World Cup.
In Germany the honorary citizenship is awarded by cities, towns and sometimes federal states. The honorary citizenship ends with the death of the honoured, or, in exceptional cases, when it is taken away by the council or parliament of the city, town, or state. In the case of war criminals, all such honours were taken away by "Article VIII, section II, letter i of the directive 38 of the Allied Control Council for Germany" on October 12, 1946. In some cases, honorary citizenship was taken away from members of the former GDR regime, e.g. Erich Honecker, after the collapse of the GDR in 1989/90.[citation needed]
In Ireland, "honorary citizenship" bestowed on a foreigner is in fact full legal citizenship including the right to reside in Ireland, to vote etc.
According to the Chapter II, Article 29, Paragraph 'e)' of the Cuban Constitution, Cuban citizens by birth are those foreigners who, by virtue of their exceptional merits won in the struggles for Cuba’s liberation, were considered Cuban citizens by birth. Che Guevara was made an honorary citizen of Cuba by Fidel Castro for his part in the Cuban Revolution, of which Guevara later renounced in his well known farewell letter.[29]
Historically, many states limited citizenship to only a proportion of their population, thereby creating a citizen class with political rights superior to other sections of the population, but equal with each other. The classical example of a limited citizenry was Athens where slaves, women, and resident foreigners (called metics) were excluded from political rights. The Roman Republic forms another example (see Roman citizenship), and, more recently, the nobility of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had some of the same characteristics.

THE POLITICAL IN QUEBEE

Politicians in Quebec and Ottawa tore on Tuesday into former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff's assertion that Quebec will "eventually" bec

Politicians in Quebec and Ottawa tore on Tuesday into former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff's assertion that Quebec will "eventually" bec

Photograph by: Geoff Robins , Reuters

Politicians in Quebec and Ottawa tore on Tuesday into former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff's assertion that Quebec will "eventually" become an independent country.

Ignatieff, who left the Liberal leadership post after his party was drubbed in the 2011 election, made the comments in an interview broadcasted Monday on BBC Scotland.

The academic also stressed Quebec and the rest of Canada have little to say to each other and that the two are already "almost" separate countries.

Quebec Premier Jean Charest told reporters in Montreal he didn't have a chance to hear Ignatieff's interview, but stressed nonetheless that a majority of Quebecers want the Canadian federation to work.

"Quebecers believe in Canada, which is a very decentralized federation. We have made important progress in the past nine years without having to reopen the Constitution," Charest said.

The premier seized the opportunity to take shots at his political opponent, Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois.

"It is Mrs. Marois' goal to hold a referendum as soon as possible. Her priority is to make Quebec's independence, not to care about the economy," he added.

Ignatieff told the BBC that a victory for Scottish separatists in an expected 2014 referendum will launch a new effort by Quebec nationalists to fulfil their sovereignist dream.

In Ottawa, the governing Conservatives were quick to lash out at his comments.

"This is irresponsible. The Liberal Party of Canada only likes Canada when it is governed by Liberals. Aside from that, Canada doesn't exist," Canadian Heritage Minister James Moore told reporters in Ottawa.

He called on federalists from all stripes to defend and promote Canadian unity.

Ignatieff felt the need to issue a statement Tuesday morning in light of the controversy sparked by his interview.

"I woke up to some strange headlines this morning! It's all about an interview I gave to BBC Scotland about the referendum on Scottish independence due to be held in 2014," he wrote on his Facebook page. "It's over 10 minutes long and can't be reduced to sound-bites."

One PQ member said the former federal politician has a newfound freedom to speak his mind.

"He doesn't have to use the Liberal party line anymore," said Sylvain Simard.
Politicians in Quebec and Ottawa tore on Tuesday into former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff's assertion that Quebec will "eventually" bec

Politicians in Quebec and Ottawa tore on Tuesday into former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff's assertion that Quebec will "eventually" bec

Photograph by: Geoff Robins, Reuters

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